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The Ferrari 1950 Ferarri 166 F2 Of Gastone Piegatoassale

CmdBentaxle Dave D

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Federal Way, Washington, USA
Total Posts: 6 Latest Post: 2017-02-16
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Latest Details

Dave D   Silver Member USA — Posted on The CycleKart Club
Thursday February 16, 2017 12:18 AM


The Office Just need that Cavllino Rampante cente

The Office. Just need that Cavllino Rampante center cap..

This data plate was a key fob Had to stamp it sem

This data plate was a key fob. Had to stamp it semi-crooked like the real one of course.

These bonnet spring latches are not functional bu

These bonnet spring latches are not functional, but they do alot for the overall impression.

Pull start access hatch can lock half way open for

Pull start access hatch can lock half way open for air intake when required.

Engine kill toggle

Engine kill toggle




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Title Fix

Dave D   Silver Member USA — Posted on The CycleKart Club
Friday January 27, 2017 11:15 AM



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Finish Work

Dave D   Silver Member USA — Posted on The CycleKart Club
Thursday January 26, 2017 9:34 PM


All suspension steering and systems were removed

All suspension, steering, and systems were removed in order to carry the 90lb body into the house. To cold in shop for this work.

Big compound curves made this more challenging tha

Big compound curves made this more challenging than most full size cars.

Back into the cold shop for re assembly All steel

Back into the cold shop for re-assembly. All steel parts were painted while out and now I can get it wet without it rusting. Time for the details to be added.




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Rated 9.5 out of 10 based on 2 ratings
2017-01-27 05:36:35 # 39909
Comment by Dennis Graham
Looks great Dave, what is styling film? Brings up nothing when Googled.dg
2017-01-27 08:31:37 # 39911
Comment by Dennis Thomas
Beautiful Cyclekart Dave. Nicely done!
2017-01-27 11:24:23 # 39914
Comment by Dave D
Thanks so much, Dennis . Alot of detail to though.Light weight stuff fortunately.Denny, styling film is what some companies call their wrap vinyl. Same stuff we wrap big trucks with basically.
2017-01-27 12:24:00 # 39915
Comment by Dave D
Thanks again, both you guys.What I was attempting to type was that I had alot of detail to add yet. Nothing heavy, thank goodness, asI'm already at 262lb.
2017-01-30 07:19:37 # 39971
Comment by Mark Kenny
Rating: 9/10
Dave - do you have any more pictures of your CK?I'm particularly interested in how you made all of the compound curves.Beautiful !
2017-01-31 07:46:35 # 39991
Comment by Zoran R. P.
Rating: 10/10
Dave, anybody knows that red cars are faster than other! Full speed with pedal to metal! We should say soemthing as "gas do daske" (trottle to the board)... Zoran
2017-02-07 22:09:38 # 40161
Comment by Bryan Dickerson
I really look forward to seeing your Ferrari live. Incredible job Dave!
2017-02-07 22:30:29 # 40162
Comment by Dave D
Thanks so much, all of you.Just out for a test with full bodywork on today.Need some adjustments after re-assembly butwent well. Stage1 really wakes things up!
2017-02-07 22:35:56 # 40163
Comment by Dave D
Mark.You can see zoomed in the strip planking but I neglected to get pictures of the framework beneath.The tight compounds are carved from foam.

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Bodywork

Dave D   Silver Member USA — Posted on The CycleKart Club
Tuesday January 17, 2017 5:08 PM


You can see the balsa strip planking and how the t

You can see the balsa strip planking and how the transition to sculpted foam intersect. Lots of sanding.

No really good pictures of the framework Sorry A

No really good pictures of the framework. Sorry. All these strips were glued on individually and dovetailed at different points

After all the sanding the entire piece is glassed

After all the sanding the entire piece is glassed with 4oz cloth and epoxy resin. Well wetted out and rolled, you can't even see it.

The radiator grill is built up from shaped 1 8 si

The radiator grill is built up from shaped 1/8" sintra parts. Notched and glued.




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2017-01-20 05:50:12 # 39797
Comment by Dennis Backstrom
Hey Bud, I truly love the nose of your car. Plus whole car looks fantastic. Looking forward to seeing it in person. Congrats
2017-01-24 19:06:01 # 39865
Comment by Dave D
Thanks Dennis. Sorry I missed your comment the other day.I'm real close to finishing. Then I'll put a bunchmore out.
2017-01-24 21:07:31 # 39870
Comment by Russ Van Dine D
I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THIS SAME MODEL. Any chance you have your drawings still and would like to share them?
2017-01-25 00:20:53 # 39873
Comment by Dave D
Russ, I literally layed my frame out in sharpie on my work table (still there) and scaled up the bulkhead stations from a small 3 view drawing on smcars.net. and drew right on the material. Most of the body is just eyeball sculpture. I really should take molds from it before I wreck anything. Even if I built another one,It would come out a little different.and have to start from scratch again.
2017-02-08 20:02:54 # 40185
Comment by Dave D
Oh Bud, I missed you somehow. Thanks.I wanted the nose long like the real one.Hope I can keep on there for a while!

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The 1950 Ferarri 166 F2 Of Gastone Piegatoassale

Dave D   Silver Member USA — Posted on The CycleKart Club
Tuesday December 13, 2016 8:00 PM


Disk brake installation My caliper is swapped aro

Disk brake installation. My caliper is swapped around so pull activates it. I use a Manco brake cable. lighter than a1/4 steel pushrod.

Completed front suspension Yes the spring is ass

Completed front suspension. Yes, the spring is assisted by bungee cords but they are gone, replaced by another leaf

040 wrisco aluminum is used in conjunction with 4

.040 wrisco aluminum is used in conjunction with 4mm Dibond floor board to create a monocoque. All body panels are mounted with VHB tape and rivets.

This is was a job with tin snips Should have gott

This is was a job with tin snips. Should have gotten a cutter.

Engine location is compact and low Weight down ce

Engine location is compact and low. Weight down centerline. I had to mod the Tav to run the chain this close.




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The frame 1x3 6061t6 rectangle tube aluminum gus

The frame. 1x3 6061t6 rectangle tube aluminum, gusseted at the joints and through bolted. Oak inserts at all stress points.

Left front suspension detail Independant control

Left front suspension detail. Independant control arms are steel rectangle tube, with oilite bushings at both ends.

Rear frame detail Brake caliper mount is steel re

Rear frame detail. Brake caliper mount is steel rectangle tube & engine mounted to twin beams.




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2016-12-13 02:42:33 # 39023
Comment by Dennis Graham
Tks for sharing some of the details of your machine with us Dave.Hope you don't mind if I pick your brain, I'm the curious type you know. That's a unique idea for the front suspension, don't think I've ever seen one like it. How does it handle?Have you had any problem with the rear bearing mount or frame flexing in the turns?Do you get much twist in the frame?dg
2016-12-13 13:21:15 # 39038
Comment by Dave D
Denny,As I add more photos you'll notice that I was nearly obsessed with keeping the weight low. So a drop frame was a must. I knew I wanted those control arm mounts and the rear axle bearing carriers above the frame, but no higher than the axle line. I fooled around for days with how to mount that spring, swinging those arms up and down. It had the function as upper control arm itself, so it's arc had match the lower arms. When the spring finally arrived ( I had been working with a mockup. NEVER again) it was much softer than advertised. The radius of travel was tighter. Camber change was more than appropriate... Then I drove it anyway, and low and behold, the camber change, paired with a motorcycle tire, actually has a positive effect on the outside wheel when turning in. As youaccelerate out it unloads. You can watch it working.So far I like the steering response and effort. And it shows no tendency to push the front end.More later. Got to make some money.
2016-12-13 15:17:25 # 39041
Comment by Dave D
Ok, where was I?Those rear axle bearing carriers are meant to be welded directly to the top of a frame rail. They are1/4"steel plate, as are the doublers I made to join them to my rails. All high strength hardware. No flex.The frame alone, was fairly rigid with just the floor in. The real car, when viewed head on is shaped like a D laying on it's straight edge, which I wanted to capture. The .04 wrisco is fairly stiff and when formed into shape, along with the floor, creates a pretty good monocoque. This car was built with mainly the road courses in mind. That orchard business almost needs a specific kind of build, in my view. I like the handling now, but I may be singing a different tune once I get it on rougher terrain.
2016-12-13 17:36:46 # 39044
Comment by Dennis Graham
I got cha Dave. The body would stiffen up that ladder frame. Still looks like the rear bearing mounts might give you some trouble, I'd keep a close watch on those if it were me. As fur as the handling, I've never understood how the positive camber thatthe 20's cars used worked in their favor. All the later cars are designed withnegative camber as part of their front geometry. dg
2016-12-13 19:47:12 # 39048
Comment by Dave D
Yeah, I figure those will deform a fair bit before they would fail. Easy to keep an eye on anyway. Experience has been that it's easier to make a weak stucture stronger than to make a heavy stucture lighter.I've heard more explanations of positive camber than I can remember. The most sensible to me is that it loads the bearings towards the inside of the spindle. Steering geometry understanding and matallurgy have come a long way.

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