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My cyclekart build photos #1
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: August 18, 2012 07:31PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

Here are some photos of my build so far. More on my photo bucket http://s1158.photobucket.com/albums/p616/Michael_Droll/

you can go to my journal here on the website to see daily progress.

The design

front of the body

A friend taking his turn with the welder

Prototype for the spring hinges

more to come...If there is anything particular that you would like me to take photos of just let me know.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/2012 07:51PM by KartBuilder29.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #2
DavidMGA1600 David Lake Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia 1935 CycleKart Great Britain 1960 MG MGA "Dads Car"	Posted: August 19, 2012 05:54AM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 299

Michael,

You sure dont muck around when you get into a task. All that work on the Cyclekart in 7 days.
Hey very cool to find the 1930s Buick especially being a long lost family car.

David.

David

1960 MGA 1600 Convertible,
Gold Coast, Australia.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #3
arndtnew3 Sam A geneseo, Illinois, USA	Posted: August 19, 2012 11:41AM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 48

Michael, I like the look of your bonnet. The angles look real nice. Boy I wish I could move that fast haha. Keep up the work!

Sam

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #4
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: August 19, 2012 12:24PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

Thanks guys!

I like angles over rounded body stiles, but this also seamed the fastest way to construct the car. I have never tried building anything like this before, but am pleased with the way its coming together. I can only work on the kart for a few hours a day after work, but figured as long as do something to it every day it should go pretty fast. that and to remeber "keep it simple stupid". I am actually ahead of schedule we will see if i can keep the pace up.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #5
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: August 19, 2012 11:18PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

today was a slow day for the kart. sad smiley

just when I was about to start on the front end, my neighbor came over to chat. After a lengthy conversation he asked if i could fix his gate latch since i had the welder out. So across the street i went with it, an hour (and a few beers) later it was time to eat dinner.

the only thing i got done was the rear free wheel hub and bearings. I am using "compression bearings" (thanks Steve i did not know the technical term) on all the free wheels. As Steve told me tonight, this might end up being a better solution for the front wheels than the traditional mounting. Cheers to happy accidents!

Here is a picture of the bearings mounted without the hub so you can see what i'm talking about. Please give me some feedback on this approach.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #6
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: August 23, 2012 11:00AM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #7
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: August 27, 2012 03:36PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

Sorry for the lack of progress photos been having a hard time with photo bucket. Here are some more photos, I'll try and re size them later to fit on a screen.

By kartbuilder29 at 2012-08-27

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and here is one of my dog cooling down from the HOT Texas weather.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2012 03:40PM by KartBuilder29.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #8
gypo David Jones Llanymynech, United Kingdom 1953 Land Rover Series I 1970 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) 1971 Austin Mini 1986 Land Rover Defender 1998 Triumph MC Daytona → more	Posted: September 11, 2012 03:15PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 80

Hi Michael,

Are your front wheels held on by just the 4 studs or have you got a spindle and bearings going through the actual wheel hub itself giving extra support??? If not then how secure is the wheel with the studs only??

Dave

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #9
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: September 12, 2012 09:26AM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

Yes they are held on by the 4 bolts only. The wheel is very secure, better than I thought it would be in fact. I mounted them the same way is the rear wheels get mounted to the live axle. One thing to note on this setup is that the wheels take a little more prep when using hubs. You have to grind down an extra 3/4" from the inside of the wheel because the hub sticks out from the bearing socket. Not a big deal and does not affect the structural integrity of the wheel, but about an extra 20 minutes of work per wheel. you can see what I am talking about in this video I made, you can see the part where the nut goes on to the hub.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #10
gypo David Jones Llanymynech, United Kingdom 1953 Land Rover Series I 1970 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) 1971 Austin Mini 1986 Land Rover Defender 1998 Triumph MC Daytona → more	Posted: September 12, 2012 02:46PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 80

Thank you for that so in your experience do you think these will be ok?

http://www.geminikarts.co.uk/shop/Product.asp?PID=1009&GID=8&SID=3740698&SPIN=16582

http://www.geminikarts.co.uk/shop/Product.asp?PID=1006&GID=8&SID=3740698&SPIN=16582

or if I make my own stub axle swivels and these hardened shafts extra long

http://www.geminikarts.co.uk/shop/Product.asp?PID=1010&GID=8&SID=3740698&SPIN=16582

with these hubs or trailer hubs of ebay

http://www.geminikarts.co.uk/shop/Product.asp?PID=1041&GID=8&SID=3740698&SPIN=16582

using this as my rear fixed axle with key way

http://www.geminikarts.co.uk/shop/Product.asp?PID=1028&GID=8&SID=3740698&SPIN=16582

Just trying to get the best ideas for ease of build and repair sad smiley

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #11
DavidMGA1600 David Lake Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia 1935 CycleKart Great Britain 1960 MG MGA "Dads Car"	Posted: September 13, 2012 02:37AM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 299

Dave,

Why are you using the hub on the front end?
Doesn't the stub axle fixed to the steering arm simply fit through the centre bearing of the Honda wheel? I'm not sure of the size of the existing wheel bearing. From some photos i have seen it would also be of a benefit to install some bracing/stiffening plates within the wheel hub to support he centre of the wheel.
I believe this is the way Steve built his wheels as well.

David

David

1960 MGA 1600 Convertible,
Gold Coast, Australia.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #12
DavidMGA1600 David Lake Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia 1935 CycleKart Great Britain 1960 MG MGA "Dads Car"	Posted: September 13, 2012 04:52AM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 299

This video from Steve shows the front wheel and hub. My sketch above doesn't show the bearing.
The front wheel is approx 3.00 min in

I have edited this a couple of time as I'm using an iPad and it's slightly harder than using a PC. I hope the video link works.

David

David

1960 MGA 1600 Convertible,
Gold Coast, Australia.

Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2012 05:06AM by DavidMGA1600.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #13
gypo David Jones Llanymynech, United Kingdom 1953 Land Rover Series I 1970 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) 1971 Austin Mini 1986 Land Rover Defender 1998 Triumph MC Daytona → more	Posted: September 13, 2012 05:29AM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 80

Hi,

I understand that the front stub axles go through the centre of the wheel but it means using a 20 mm bolt and fabricating the rest of the stub axles.

I have ordered the 9x20x37 bearings ready buy then thought could I find and use a pre-made set up for ease. edit (update) Bearings arrived today and I have 20mm solid bar and 20mm 8.8 tensile bolts which I will probably use to fabricate my own stub axles as have had no response to the email I sent to the kart place.

I will get on to that next as I have already fitted the rear axle will floating type bearings on rear through the box section. Trying to locate a keyed 25mm hub at present as the driving hub, the free wheeling one is easy to buy.

Just a case of pressing the old 12mm bearings out of the wheels and in with the new 20mm ones.

Dave

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2012 02:13PM by gypo.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #14
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: September 14, 2012 12:33AM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

The bearing that come with the CT90 are much smaller than the spindle shafts. I used the hubs because i thought it would be easier than trying to find bearings. they are very sturdy, and use thrust bearings instead of ball. It was very easy to put together, but took a little longer than expected.

I just took my first_(successful) ride the other day, I will try and post the crappy video from my phone when i can. Also not sure if anyone cares but i have it in 3D also, so if anyone is interested let me know and i will upload it.

Sorry for the late replies and lack of posting been CRAZY busy the last few weeks. Dont worry Kart is still getting work done when it can be. thumbs up

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #15
gypo David Jones Llanymynech, United Kingdom 1953 Land Rover Series I 1970 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) 1971 Austin Mini 1986 Land Rover Defender 1998 Triumph MC Daytona → more	Posted: September 14, 2012 02:30PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 80

So Michael, how does it run?? Is it fast enough with your gearing?? Did you use a go-kart centrifugal clutch set up or torque converter??

Dave

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #16
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: September 15, 2012 09:36AM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

I used a centrifugal clutch, and i can tell you that i will not have it for very long. acceleration from a stand still is MISERABLE and even the slightest incline and the kart needs to be pushed to get moving. But once moving this thing is fast. I have not been able to get to top speed yet as my street ends before getting there. The video I made got corrupted and wont play, if the weather is good today I will take a new video.

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #17
gypo David Jones Llanymynech, United Kingdom 1953 Land Rover Series I 1970 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) 1971 Austin Mini 1986 Land Rover Defender 1998 Triumph MC Daytona → more	Posted: September 15, 2012 04:00PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 80

I have not touched my kart for a bit due to other commitments, managed to get some leaf springs today so well chuffed. Am planning on going straight for torque converter from the off especially now you have tried one. Your kart sounds fast and furious ha ha, will get mine sorted over the British winter.

Will await the video.

Dave

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #18
KartBuilder29 Michael Droll Houston, USA 1920 CycleKart Pre War "Burgundy Betty"	Posted: September 18, 2012 11:35AM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 37

shooting a new video got put on hold. I have to rethink the mount for the brake band, it got bent during a test ride and locked up. On a good note the brake it self works great!

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Re: My cyclekart build photos #19
gypo David Jones Llanymynech, United Kingdom 1953 Land Rover Series I 1970 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) 1971 Austin Mini 1986 Land Rover Defender 1998 Triumph MC Daytona → more	Posted: September 18, 2012 01:51PM Registered: 10 months ago Posts: 80

Better with no brakes gets the old ticker going a bit faster than usual spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

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