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Notso-Chinsee Gold Member Albert Lies
Spokane Valley, Washington (WA), USA   USA
I have been thinking about the next CK and have several "American" cars on the list. Anyone looking at the Miller Ford V8, Studebaker or Duesenberg or any others that have inspire you.



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1908Rick Rick Eggers
Cape Coral, Florida, USA   USA
1900 Ford Model 01 "Quadricycle"
1908 Harley-Davidson Pre-War
1965 AC Cobra
I'm building a 1935 Miller-Ford V-8 cycle kart. I've got drawings done and I'm in the process of collecting parts.
I have to finish the mini Model T for my grand kids first, but as soon as that's done, I'll hit it hard on the Indy car.

Rick


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Notso-Chinsee Gold Member Albert Lies
Spokane Valley, Washington (WA), USA   USA
Rick,
Nice look on the T you have captures that front end I love it!



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gearguy Charles Schultz
Oil City, Pennsylvania, USA   USA
A recreation of the Cornelian driven by Louis Chevrolet. In Gilmore Museum in Michigan. Perfect for a cycle kart?


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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, Illinois, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Al, I think you orta invest in a ticket to the indy 500 museum before you
start the next one. Or......spend a little less and just spend a few nights
at the museum on youtube .

Hey Dave, take a look at minute 7:48


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Charles,

That is a GREAT representation of a cycle cart and would be a fantastic example of something that none of the rest here have done. I may even steel your example for a CK if I ever get back to starting on mine.
You need to post this image in the inspiration area for future reference. That is a nice machine.

TX
Mr fixit
Chris smiling smiley

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Notso-Chinsee Gold Member Albert Lies
Spokane Valley, Washington (WA), USA   USA
Charles,
You have single handily answered the reason I started this post. This is a great example of a car that was innovative for its time though not main stream winner. Thanks for sharing!
Al



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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, Illinois, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Rick, what are you using for the front spring on that 'T' ?
Looks like a three leaf spring? And what are you hiding
behind it with the great big spoked wheels and Tiller?
dg

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1908Rick Rick Eggers
Cape Coral, Florida, USA   USA
1900 Ford Model 01 "Quadricycle"
1908 Harley-Davidson Pre-War
1965 AC Cobra
I made the springs for the Model T. The ends are welded on, and they're not heat treated, but for kids that don't weigh much, they work fine.I
The car in the background is a replica of Henry Ford's Quadricycle. Check out the vehicles on my homepage for more pictures of that.

Rick

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Uncle Fester Daniel Parris
Kent, Washington, USA   USA
We have been looking at building one of the Fronty Fords of the early Indy days. We have also looked at several of the Millers. After seeing your Track T at Tieton we are more having trouble not building our version of an early Short Track/Hort Rod T.



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Notso-Chinsee Gold Member Albert Lies
Spokane Valley, Washington (WA), USA   USA
Dan,

There are several restored and photos of early dirt track cars one could use as an inspiration. My CK came from a car I build in the mid1980s and sold to finance a 56 pickup. After that itch was satisfied I’m looking for a more iconic American subject and I have found several I had not known about. Though not winners they provided innovation in the early years. Denny G. mentioned visiting the Indy 500 Museum which will be on my list of placer I plan to visit later this year if things work out.



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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, Illinois, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
That is truly a genuine Cyclekart Rick, beautiful workmanship. You have
to be a machinist from the looks of the car. I'll bet Henry didn't put that much
effort into his.

So....the T isn't a springer.... though I might have found another source for
the guys.
I'm making my own springs also for my CK. No welding though. 5160 alloy
and I'm just putting the finishing touches on the forge/oven I'm building to
heat treat them. While the paint's drying, I need to make up a tank to hold
about 10 gallons of quench oil:
Denny G


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1908Rick Rick Eggers
Cape Coral, Florida, USA   USA
1900 Ford Model 01 "Quadricycle"
1908 Harley-Davidson Pre-War
1965 AC Cobra
Thanks, Dennis. I'm not a machinist, but I'm learning. For the Quadricycle project, I bought a Smithy combination lathe/ mill. I read the manual and learned by doing. Did you look at the pictures of my Harley racer? I built that whole bike including the v-twin from scratch. The T is a springer. I made the spring from flat stock and welded ends on the main leaf for the shackles to bolt to. For the kids, the spring doesn't get enough weight put on it to deform, so it works OK.

Your project looks quite ambitious. Are you a metalurgist by any chance?I

Rick

Team classic Brian S
Lyttelton Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand   NZL
Wow! You are a craftsman, Denny.well done.

Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, Illinois, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Well you're doin' a fine job if you are indeed an amateur.
Nope, no degree, just a jack of many different trades and
as they say....a master of none of them.
Wore many different hats in my 75 years. Welding, machine work,
electrical/electronics, composites, wood working, painting, and a whole
bunch more that drew my interest. Life's to short to spend it all as an expert
in only one field.
The need often comes up when I've machined or welded a part that it
needs pre or post heat treat. Way to expensive to have it professionally
done so I'll be using the forge/oven for some small forgings and mostly for
heat treating. I like to see if I can make it myself and the leaf springs
are an example of that. If I can nail down the process I'll turn out a
few dozen sets of springs. Hope to use three or four pairs myself
and sell off the extras.
Think we better get the thread back on track, sorry for the diversion
Al.

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