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JTremain Justin Tremain
Oak HArbor, WA, USA   USA
1927 Nash Legion Special "Legion Special"
Hoping not to burn my hand again.



"Magic Man"

1927 Nash Modified: Legion Special
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Woodysrods Silver Member Brian Woods
Westbank B.C., Canada   CAN
So now I see why your calliper was so hard to bleed?confused smiley
Callipers are usually mounted at 10 or 2 o'clock...never at 12 o'clock.
Brian
PS
Great job on the wrap....I hope I can get mine on that nice!



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Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Please 'splain why calipers are never mounted at 12:00 Brian???? If you have a good
reason, I'm in deep doo doo. My bleeders are right at the top, the highest place in the
circuit, that should make it quite easy to get the air out by standard bleeding methods.
Years ago, I used to do all of my own brake work and a lot for friends and relatives.
But as I've gotten older I've not done much, other than on the old Chevy trucks that I drive.
I've always just got somebody, usually sweetie face, to pump up the pedal while I'm making
the mess on the floor. This time I'm going to try reverse bleeding on the kart, something that
to me is a rather new idea. The first time I was aware of it was when I saw a video for a
Phoenix Systems fluid injector. I've got this old 1 gallon pressure bleeder that, if I recall
correctly, I picked up back when I was a teenager working in the Chevy dealership, which
was a loooong time ago. Every time I have to move it to a new place in the shop, I tell myself
that I'm gonna rebuild that thing one of these days. Well.......looks like the time is approaching
to tear it apart, media blast it, fresh coat of paint, make a new diaphragm for it and some adapters.

I'm not ready.....yet, but I've already got my exhaust wrap on the self. And not to say that
you din't do a nice job of wrapping Justin, that looks as good as any I've seen. It's just the
nature of the beast, but I wish someone would come up with something that was a bit
more aesthetic. That wrap has always looked like some sort of Ace bandage that one
would find being applied in the locker room.

dg

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CmdBentaxle Dave D
Federal Way, WA, USA   USA
1950 CycleKart Italian "1950 Ferrari 166 F2"
I too have my caliper at high noon, with the bleeders at the top and it does indeed tend to self bleed if the system is filled and they are left open. I had a little trouble manually bleeding myself, so I left it open overnight.
That's all it took. Dad used to say that when you have stubborn air in the lines, just go in and leave it alone with the cap loose on the reservoir. Chances are it'll percolate out overnight. I've had this work many times.

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Woodysrods Silver Member Brian Woods
Westbank B.C., Canada   CAN
Calliper designs vary.
They can pretty much be mounted at any clocking on the rotor as long as the bleeder is at the "top"
usually found at somewhere between 1 and 5 o'clock or 7 & 11 o'clock????????
Most CycleKarts have callipers at 3 or 9 o'clock especially those using the manual go kart ones.

Brian



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Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Of course all the slave and master cylinders that we're using are metric, but I don't want to
keep it metric all the way back. Finding fittings like tees and elbows in metric for me, is a
pain in the butt. So I'm planning to run SAE for all my hard lines.
We have a hydraulic hose shop next town over and the plan is to have them make me up
the three flex lines I need, one from the MC and a pair to the WC's. On the flex lines,
metric banjo's are pretty much the standard now a days but on the other end of the hoses,
I want to go with AN-3 fittings. Any one see any problems with doing that???? Like problems
with hose ID???
If all goes as planned, I'll be doing this down the right side for the hydraulic throttle line also.
dg

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CmdBentaxle Dave D
Federal Way, WA, USA   USA
1950 CycleKart Italian "1950 Ferrari 166 F2"
Just the extra bother, if it is for you.
In my case it was 10mm cylinder at one end. 10mm caliper at the other
end. Way too easy to just order that $8 braided line with banjos on each end and hook her up!

Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
If I recall Dave, you used the system off of a bike, right???

By the way....how ya'll weathering the storm???

dg



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JTremain Justin Tremain
Oak HArbor, WA, USA   USA
1927 Nash Legion Special "Legion Special"
Dave's it Kawasaki and mine is from a suzuki



"Magic Man"

1927 Nash Modified: Legion Special
"Build" Thread - https://www.cyclekartclub.com/phorum/read.php?2,26661

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CmdBentaxle Dave D
Federal Way, WA, USA   USA
1950 CycleKart Italian "1950 Ferrari 166 F2"
Yep, 1992 Ninja 600R rear.
37f in the garage, 24f outside. 8in snow.
Expecting more. Not much getting done.

Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Been watching the news, man you guys sure got your share of the snow out there in the
NW. We're getting your leftovers to day. Just an inch or so is all you let us have this time.
At least your temps are up there. That with a little sun should clear the streets pretty quick.

I bought a couple of shaft drive differentials from bikes with the intention of maybe adapting
them to a kart one day. I think I'm gonna stick with the go kart brake systems for now as
everything is readily available from any one of a dozen vendors at reasonable prices.
Don't see why if they're stopping go karts hitting close to 100 they won't stop a CK
at 50.
dg

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JTremain Justin Tremain
Oak HArbor, WA, USA   USA
1927 Nash Legion Special "Legion Special"
Made my own louver die and got some practice in on a sample piece. Needs a little tweaking, but pretty happy over all. No one will accuse me of out sourcing these haha



"Magic Man"

1927 Nash Modified: Legion Special
"Build" Thread - https://www.cyclekartclub.com/phorum/read.php?2,26661


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Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Any one says anything about your louvers Justin......hand them the hammer and tell them to
show you how they make louvers. That usually shuts them up.
Those look fine, why don't you share with us how you made your die??? I've seen about
a dozen variations on the subject. With that looming on the horizon, I'd like as many
suggestions as I can get before I make up my mind on my dies.
dg

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JTremain Justin Tremain
Oak HArbor, WA, USA   USA
1927 Nash Legion Special "Legion Special"
Heres my die for the louver. I've added a welded on a piece of angle iron to set the depth.



"Magic Man"

1927 Nash Modified: Legion Special
"Build" Thread - https://www.cyclekartclub.com/phorum/read.php?2,26661


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JTremain Justin Tremain
Oak HArbor, WA, USA   USA
1927 Nash Legion Special "Legion Special"
A trip to the hardware store and a couple hours later, I've got the faux carbs and exhaust mocked up. Pretty happy with how it's turning out.



"Magic Man"

1927 Nash Modified: Legion Special
"Build" Thread - https://www.cyclekartclub.com/phorum/read.php?2,26661


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