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roadster1 Silver Member Allen Bass
Bellingham, WA, USA   USA
The second half of the video. Don't know why my gopro split it into two videos




1934 Maserati 2.9L G.P.

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Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Tks for posting the video Allan. Who's the guy in the micro-sprint with the
roll cage, and what was his inspiration car supposed to be?? Judging
from the sound of his engine as it revs up coming out of the turn and
down the straight, it doesn't sound like a TAV. Is he running a clutch??
DG

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roadster1 Silver Member Allen Bass
Bellingham, WA, USA   USA
In reply to # 34445 by Denny Graham Tks for posting the video Allan. Who's the guy in the micro-sprint with the
roll cage, and what was his inspiration car supposed to be?? Judging
from the sound of his engine as it revs up coming out of the turn and
down the straight, it doesn't sound like a TAV. Is he running a clutch??
DG

That is Dave P.'s Delahaye with top half of the body removed for rollcage installation for some experimenting. He has a centrifugal clutch installed , also experimentation.
He was very quick.



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moto-klasika Zoran R. Pualic
Bern, Bern, Switzerland   CHE
Hello, there!
Thank you all for letting us enjoyed your fun and adventures!

That roll-cage CycleKart was a mystery that now is solved!
Its roll-cage looks like something that we discussed some time, about the passive safety of Cyclekarts... Future would say would that be the best way for others to follow...

It seems that Dave's experiment with automatic clutch and single-speed chain transmission could be successful, both in high speed and acceleration? I remember that Fabrice from The Gaul's Club mentioned once that their members didn't notice any practical difference if use a well-established transmission with CVT/TAV and transmission with a clutch (automatic or manual) and single-speed chain transmission... It would be nice to read Dave's personal experience!

I noticed that Dave's CycleKart has "negative camber" of rear heels! Could that be a result of independent rear suspension or some strange rear axle?

Some photos taken from the film are attached!

Ciao,
Zoran




Zoran R. Pualić
(mostly living in Bern, Swiss & happy in my Belgrade, Serbia)


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Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
You can really hear the difference when he comes out of the turn.
The clutch grabs and the engine starts to wind up. Sounds like he's
hitting at least 5K by the time he shuts it down for the turn.
Don't know if I like the look of the roll cage. When they became
mandatory on the midgets, we started driving with no fear. Before that
you dreaded getting over on your head, literally on your head.

Something I've noticed over the past couple of years in an awful lot of the
videos, is the start. The pole sitter is supposed to set the pace and lead
the pack to the green. Seems a good amount of the time they run to fast
or don't maintain an even speed so the pack can stage for the start.
Also, a lot of the time the cars in the pack hang back or fail to keep
a tight position, this would be pretty irritating if the guy I was following
as we staged for the start were hanging back out of position.
Is this ever discussed at a drivers meeting???
Also I've noticed the white flag being used for the start at Slime Doggy.
The green is used correctly, for the start in the videos I've seen of Tieton.
Don't they have a green at the SD oval??

Tks
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2018-07-26 07:05 PM by Denny Graham.

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roadster1 Silver Member Allen Bass
Bellingham, WA, USA   USA
Slyme Dawg has always used the green flag to start the race when I've raced.



1934 Maserati 2.9L G.P.

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Slyme Dawg Ryan Hanegan
Sultan, WA, USA   USA
As long as im flagging it will be!

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CmdBentaxle Dave D
Federal Way, WA, USA   USA
1950 CycleKart Italian "1950 Ferrari 166 F2"
I watched and sure enough, no green flag to start. I think maybe having lined them up under yellow, Ryan never switched to the green, just waving what he had. And you should see him gesticulating like an orchestra conductor trying to get stragglers into position sometimes!
I have been pretty straight down the line on cages. If they start to become a trend, I'm out.
For exactly the reasons Denny points out. To me, they have no place on a cyclekart.
That is an independent rear suspension on the Delahaye, by the way. It is actually a very cool car and
one of my favorites. When it looks like a Delahaye 135, that is.

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Slyme Dawg Ryan Hanegan
Sultan, WA, USA   USA
Denny
I am the flag man
Yes it is frustrating getting the pack to forn up..This is the first time many of these racers are starting together as a pack at a start.
Yes racers pole up on the leader. I as the flag man decide where the start is. Sometimes it will be.as.the exit turn 4 orhers it will be at the flag stand. Its discussed at pit meeting s and its getting better. Im comfortable I grab the green to start. Would love to see.the clip you talk about. As we.say.shit happens! :-)

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CmdBentaxle Dave D
Federal Way, WA, USA   USA
1950 CycleKart Italian "1950 Ferrari 166 F2"
Ryan, it looks to me in one clip like maybe you had them under yellow late in the heat and flagged them away
for the last lap with the white?

Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Just goin' by what it looked like in the video Ryan. Quite possible I misinterpreted
what I was seeing. Especially when you switched directions, I couldn't see
the lights then, so it's kind of hard to tell what's going on.
Did notice you trying to signal to bunch up the pack. Without nerf bars, maybe
some of the guys are a little skittish about bending up their buddies pride and
joy.
If the roll cages catch on, maybe nerf bars should follow???? How bout bladders
and fire protection???

dg

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bensko Ben Hanisko
Seattle, WA, USA   USA
As a guy who was there, I saw Ryan start the race after everyone (pretty much) was in a pack with the green. Later in the race, there was a yellow followed by a NASCAR special green/white/checker.

I also will note, to everyone's credit, that there was some really good racing and passes but nobody got close to touching the whole time. I hope we can keep that up.

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Slyme Dawg Ryan Hanegan
Sultan, WA, USA   USA
Thanks Ben
that is how I rembered it.
And now for something completely different.....

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JTremain Justin Tremain
Oak HArbor, WA, USA   USA
1927 Nash Legion Special "Legion Special"
Beers???

In reply to # 34465 by Slyme Dawg Thanks Ben
that is how I rembered it.
And now for something completely different.....



"Magic Man"

1927 Nash Modified: Legion Special
"Build" Thread - https://www.cyclekartclub.com/phorum/read.php?2,26661

Denny Graham Gold Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Hey guys.....I get the feeling that some think that I'm being critical. Maybe since
I wasn't a participant I shouldn't have the privilege of asking??. I'm not pointing
fingers at anyone, just asking questions.
Since I'm 2000 miles away, all I or many others have to go by are the GoPro
videos that the guys post about the meet. With the limited field of view and
the bouncing round that we get from head cams, it's not always clear what's
happening.
I'm sure there are instructions from the starter that never get on camera.
So the view from the videos do raise some legitimate questions.
If we don't ask...how we ever gonna know what's goin' on.
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL

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