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Knock off's/knock on's......keepin' them tight?

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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Well every one knows that the thread is in the opposite direction of tire rotation, which
assures that the nut is always being tightened during acceleration. But what happens
during heavy down shifting, wouldn't this tend to reverse the torque on the nut??
dg

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CmdBentaxle Dave D
Federal Way, WA, USA   USA
1950 CycleKart Italian "1950 Ferrari 166 F2"
That's what the last couple whacks of the mallet are for.

Rhysn Rhys Nolan
Tamworth, Staffordshire, UK   GBR
They found that with the Lola GT that lead to the GT40. That car had them fitted "wrong " side!

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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
How in the world could they make a mistake like that????
I bought the rear axle long with the idea that I would Left hand thread
the other side. Had the tap and die for better than a year and planned
to use real knock-off's on the rear. For what reason??? Don't really know,
it just complicates things for no purpose other than originality.
Now the front's.......without a splined hub with tapered bearings i haven't
figured a way to actually make a knock-off work there.
dg

Rhysn Rhys Nolan
Tamworth, Staffordshire, UK   GBR
Denny, they didn't make a mistake! The issue was exactly as you expressed when you started the thread, although I was told it wasn't the downshifts, it was the much greater braking ability, race drivers do try to be smooth on all shifts to reduce the loads. The solution was to fit them on the "wrong side" until a better solution, the peg drive wheels was developed. All from tales "back in the day", true? Don't really know.

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1908Rick Rick Eggers
Cape Coral, FL, USA   USA
In reply to # 32313 by Denny Graham
I bought the rear axle long with the idea that I would Left hand thread
the other side. Had the tap and die for better than a year and planned
to use real knock-off's on the rear. For what reason??? Don't really know,
it just complicates things for no purpose other than originality.
Now the front's.......without a splined hub with tapered bearings i haven't
figured a way to actually make a knock-off work there.
dg

Denny, why don't you just do them the way I did? You have the look of a knock-off, without complicating things.

In case you forgot, I attach the spinner to the wheel, and it simply covers the actual nut that's holding the wheel on. This also allows the front wheel spinner to rotate with the wheel.
Looks cool, and you don't have to worry about them unscrewing themselves.


Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
I saw that Rick when you posted it earlier. I'm really not much into it "looking" good but not functional.
I'm not making a sculpture of the real car, If it doesn't have an actual function on the kart, I'm not going
to incorporate it in the build. I feel the same about the instruments and shocks. I'm not interested in stickers
on the dash or non working shocks that look the part.
If a part is not actually functional then I don't want to use it.
Nothing wrong with anyone else including those faux parts in their build, it's just not the way I want mine.
Tks.
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL

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1908Rick Rick Eggers
Cape Coral, FL, USA   USA
I can understand that if that's what you want.

Then the question is, why do a knock-off at all when a nut will do?

Neto Ernest B
Berlin, OH, USA   USA
In reply to # 32313 by Denny Graham How in the world could they make a mistake like that????
I bought the rear axle long with the idea that I would Left hand thread
the other side. Had the tap and die for better than a year and planned
to use real knock-off's on the rear. For what reason??? Don't really know,
it just complicates things for no purpose other than originality.
Now the front's.......without a splined hub with tapered bearings i haven't
figured a way to actually make a knock-off work there.
dg

My only thought would be to use a shouldered bolt. Then use spring ('wave') washers next to the hub, to get the right amount of tension to prevent lash. (Or sideways movement. Do I have the right term?)

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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Think what I posted at #4 Rick answered that "Had the tap and die for better than a year and planned
to use real knock-off's on the rear. For what reason??? Don't really know,
it just complicates things for no purpose other than originality. "
But they would have to be functional, not dummy's. Since we're not making tire change pit stops and
time is not a factor knockoffs really aren't a necessity. However, they were used on the original inspiration
car so it would be nice to include them in the build. Key words here are "necessity" and "functionality",
DG

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