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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Cool Tony....but that brings up a lot of questions. Can you let us in on your secrets?
Looks to be about 16 ga and what....maybe 3003? Did you use a hammer form for
the end caps? You obviously welded the wrapper after rolling, I can still see a faint
shadow, where It appears you've ground the weld flat? Tig? How will you mount it
and where will you mount it? What's the capacity gonna be? Are you gravity feeding
your motor or are you using a pumper?
Thanks
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL

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Woodysrods Silver Member Brian Woods
Westbank B.C., Canada   CAN
Oh Denny, you are up early...............can't sleep???
Go to Chat Room
Brian



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andrewroudny andrew roudny
peterborough, ON, Canada   CAN
1939 CycleKart German "The Vulture"
Great looking kart. I really like how you've painted some of the steering components and frame red and left the body bare metal. Super sharp.



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-Nelson Mandela

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SteveV Steve Vinson
Phoenix, AZ, USA   USA
1924 Ford Model T "Viscount Vinson Special"
1927 CycleKart American "Mono Wasp"


Tony,

The spindle you are using look a lot like the ones that I have and had to modify. Are you having trouble with the turning radius being reduced because the spindles "bottom out" by hitting the "C" bracket?

Steve



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fatfendertruck Tony Sanchez
Show Low, AZ, USA   USA
Brian and Denny,
I rolled the tube on my e-wheel and hammer formed the end caps. The material is 3003 h14 .063.
The tank will be installed in the engine compartment above the engine. It will be gravity feed, about one gallon.

Andrew, thank you.

Steve, because of the radius rods that I use, the steering radii is compromised. I did grind the inside edge of the king pin yoke, and gained all of the steering radii that is possible. At full lock right or left turn the inside rear of my wheel is about a quarter of an inch from the radius rods.

Added a couple of photos of the gas tank.

Tony


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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Rolled the wrapper in an E-wheel??? I'm not the experienced metal shapper
that your are Tony, but that sounds like a real challenge rolling that tight of
a tube in an E-wheel. Why wouldn't you use a slip roller?
I'm always looking for ideas, so can you tell me what you use for your hammer
forms? Solid Wood, metal, plywood, masonite, MDF???
I fabbed the 20 gallon main tank and 5 gallon wing center section tank for my
biplane about a quarter century ago and used hardwood forms. All I had access
to at the time was 16 ga. 6061 which I had to anneal several times before I
got the end caps to shape. Heliarc welded them and they held up for 27 years
till I got rid of the plane. Far as I know,they're still holding fuel, at least the
present owner hasn't sued the manufacturer yet because of a fuel leak.
Thanks for the feed back.
dg

fatfendertruck Tony Sanchez
Show Low, AZ, USA   USA
Three years ago I sold all of my large equipment before moving to Arizona. Now I use an e-wheel with a go cart slick on top and UHMW lower dies to roll metal. I can only get about 70 percent of the tube rolled, then use clamps to close the tube.

Usually I use MDF for one or two parts. For these end caps I used an aluminum form that I had in stock.

Tony

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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Thanks Tony. Of course the 6061 that I used on the tanks was pretty hard to begin with, and
work hardened pretty quickly after annealing, but how is the 3003 to work with? I've never
used any of it and what I've been using for practice with the wheel is butter soft 1100, which
I have quite a bit of. I'll probably use that for all of my high crown parts.
I have a sheet (4x10) of 3003 .040 that I bought last year and have yet to shear up.
I'd planed to use for the flat panels and low crown parts like around the cowl.
Does the 3003 work harden much when used in something like the end
caps you made???
tks
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL

fatfendertruck Tony Sanchez
Show Low, AZ, USA   USA
Denny, 6061 is a bear to use for hammer forming. 3003 h14 is a whole lot better for hammer forming, h14 is half hard not as soft as 1100. 3003 will eventually work harden and will need to be annealed but it does stay workable for a long time. On the end caps that I made I didn't have to anneal, but if I had to make a second joggle on that edge I would anneal to keep it from splitting.

If you are going to use the .040 for body panels for your kart, I would put some shape into the panel. I like to use shape, beads, flanges or louvers to strengthen body panels.

Tony

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Denny Graham Silver Member Dennis Graham
Sandwich, IL, USA   USA
1950 Chevrolet 3600 "Old Blue"
1954 Chevrolet 3600
Yes it was, but it was doable as long as I stopped to anneal it a few times. The 18ga will
be used on the roll at the top of the hood, the hood side panels which will be loaded
with large louvers. probably the cowl which has a bit of a flare at the top. I may end
up with some heavier material for the tail because the sides are pretty large with not
much shape to them.
dg

fatfendertruck Tony Sanchez
Show Low, AZ, USA   USA
Finished welding the gas tank, except for the bungs which I still have to find.


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Speeddemon Louis Poleet (Suspended)
Roslindale, MA, USA   USA
1970 CycleKart Custom "Rose"
Hi Tony try here www.bungking.com. and keep up the gd work your doing over there. Cheers



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Dan Lockwood Avatar
O'Fallon, MO, USA   USA
In reply to # 32355 by fatfendertruck Finished welding the gas tank, except for the bungs which I still have to find.

You might want to try Jegs as they have some great weld-in bungs. I bought mine there for my steel gas tanks on my Boartrack racer bike project.

Jegs Aluminum Weld-In Gas Bung With Cap

Nice work.



Dan
O'Fallon MO

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